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Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:03 pm
by peterlin
Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs
(Mituo Prince 'BB' X Mituo Reflex Dragon 'B1')

This is a surprise. Nice coerulea color and form is good too. New blue breeding from Mituo Orchids.

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Re: Phal (Mituo Prince 'BB' X Mituo Reflex Dragon 'B1')

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:15 am
by WaltonInlet
Nice to see 'BB' pass on blue-ish color.

"Onward and upward!"

Re: Phal (Mituo Prince 'BB' X Mituo Reflex Dragon 'B1')

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:10 am
by peterlin
Photo update. Second flower is much cleaner. Less yellow in the background

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Re: Phal (Mituo Prince 'BB' X Mituo Reflex Dragon 'B1')

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:30 pm
by WaltonInlet
"Now we're talkin'."

Beautiful, novel and high quality. Congratulations, Peter.

Phal (Mituo Prince 'BB' X Mituo Reflex Dragon 'B1')

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:09 pm
by peterlin
Thank you Walton.

Mr Chen said he thinks both parents contribute blue color

Here are its siblings

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Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:53 am
by WaltonInlet
WOW. That second-to-the-last one is dumbfounding. Awesome!

P.S. I love the name; we gotta have some fun in this life!

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:16 am
by peterlin
Thank you Walton

I told my non orchid growing friends that this is orchid blue. Not blue sky. For now this is as good as it gets unless we get a dyed white Phalaenopsis that looks blue. Or if we move to Australia and grow their blue terrestrial orchid with sky blue color.

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:49 pm
by sweetjblue
Peter, Love the name on this! Love all of the flowers even more. Would be happy with any of these.

Can you tell me if the spikes are slow to develop? The one I have it seems its spike is growing very slowly or maybe it has stalled due to the heat of the past month or so.

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:55 am
by raybark
This is strictly personal opinion, but I think (hope) such breeding has a long way to go yet, as many of the so-called "blues" are really muddy looking.

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:29 am
by TxRobNLA
This is a really fun cross Peter. Are you going to get in any of these in?

Ray, definitely a long way to go with coerulea breeding and lots of room for improvement. Only way to really get clear color will be to go back and knock out all the flavanoid type pigments. We are going to go through an in-between stage where in order to improve on form, size, etc we have to add some new genetics into the mix which will also introduce other pigments. But I also think this is going to result in some really interesting colors, so not all bad news.

Even my crosses that have only equestris and violacea in them still have some yellow and green pigments in them that impacts the color. What I'm noticing in the crosses where the flavanoid pigments are not as strong, they fade after a few days and the color changes from a deep violet to a slightly bluer looking hue. (still violet)

Anyway, it's exciting time for coerulea hybridizing. Lots of fun things going on in this area.

Best, Rob

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:51 am
by TxRobNLA
Peter, the other question I thought of, do you know if Mituo Reflex Dragon has any coerulea violacea or indigo violacea in it? I'm assuming it does not and this is all going back to the coerulea mutation coming out of Dragon Tree Eagle.

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:41 pm
by peterlin
TxRobNLA wrote:Peter, the other question I thought of, do you know if Mituo Reflex Dragon has any coerulea violacea or indigo violacea in it? I'm assuming it does not and this is all going back to the coerulea mutation coming out of Dragon Tree Eagle.
Rob - Mr Chen of Mituo Orchids said that he believe both parents of Phal Mituo Blue Smurfs contribute coerulea color. In this case, Mituo Prince 'BB' and Mituo Reflex Dragon 'B1'.

Phal violacea f. Indigo is not in the background of Phal Dragon Tree Eagle (registered in 2004 by Dragon Tree Orchids - owner Wang, Bi-Jiang), Phal Ld's Bear King, Phal Ld's Bear Queen, and Phal Mituo Prince.

I'm getting coerulea color in my hybrid Phal Pylo's Eagle which is (Phalaenopsis Dragon Tree Eagle X Phalaenopsis Chienlung Red Eagle) - where Phalaenopsis Chienlung Red Eagle is Germaine Vincent x Black Eagle. I can ask Mr Liu Tiao-Nan - what is in the background of his Phal Germaine Vincent, cross number WZ410.

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:48 pm
by peterlin
sweetjblue wrote: Can you tell me if the spikes are slow to develop? The one I have it seems its spike is growing very slowly or maybe it has stalled due to the heat of the past month or so.
It's possible that when condition changed the inflorescence may stop developing. For novelty phalaenopsis heat is not a problem if plant is kept below 90F with good air circulation. Low humidity can also interrupt the development of bud/flower.

Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:08 pm
by peterlin
Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

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Re: Phalaenopsis Mituo Blue Smurfs

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:58 am
by Bob
Another nice one! :)