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 Post subject: Phalaenopsis Pylo's Flame F1723
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:16 pm 
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Phalaenopsis Pylo's Flame (Haur Jin Princess 'Texas Red' AM/AOS X Tying Shin Forever Love 'Orange Crush' AM/AOS)

This flower bloomed out by Ken Avant. It's a lovely first bloom.

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 Post subject: Re: Phalaenopsis Pylo's Flame F1723
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:34 am 
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Oooh, oooh, oooh!

I have two seedlings of this, unflowered. I just e.mailed Peter a day or so ago about my "shortage" of unflowered seedlings from his breeding. I *MUST* have unflowered seedlings: the anticipation of flowering first-bloom seedlings is, by orders of magnitude, my favorite part of growing orchids.

Peter - I will e.mail you later about my next order and I do hope there are still some of these remaining. The two plants that I have are vigorous growers; you mentioned in the text for the seedlings that these would probably be 4n.

Ken/Peter -- are we still thinking these will be 4n?

Congratulations, Ken -- an awesome first bloom and if it is indeed 4n, hmmmm….

Walton

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 Post subject: Re: Phalaenopsis Pylo's Flame F1723
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WaltonInlet wrote:
Ken/Peter -- are we still thinking these will be 4n?

Congratulations, Ken -- an awesome first bloom and if it is indeed 4n, hmmmm….

Walton


Walton, yes, Phal Pylo's Flame is 4n. Parents are Phal Haur Jin Princess 'Texas Red' AM/AOS X Phal Tying Shin Forever Love 'Orange Crush' AM/AOS)

Phal Haur Jin Princess is a descendant from Phal Golden Peoker and Phal Ching Her Buddha. Both are known to breed both way. Immediate parents of Phal Haur Jin Princess are Phal Haur Jin Diamond and Phal Dou-dii Golden Princess - both are proven parents that breeds both way.

hal Tying Shin Forever Love 'Orange Crush' - breeds both way - in this way used as pollen parent. Its immediate parents Phal Sogo Lawrence is a known 4n parents decent from Phal Brother Sara Gold. The other parent Phal Tying Shin Cupid has been used both way too by Tying Shin Orchids. We know here in the US we have confirmed 4n Phal Kuntrarti Rarashati (equestris x venosa). We did not know the ploidy of Phal Kuntrarti Rarashati used in Taiwan to make these beautiful orange-red multiflora. But over time we have seen these Tying Shin hybrid breeds both way - confirm that they are 4n.

I will use one example. PHal Tying Shin Baby Smile is registerd where Chingruey's Fancy - larger red is used as pod parent, and Tying Shin Cupid is pollen parent.

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