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 Post subject: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:22 pm 
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Here is one that I like today. Found it hidden under another plant's leaves

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:45 pm 
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Peter --
You mentioned this already, but, I still ask:

Where is all this green coming from? Neither parent promises such, but most of my 1706 have a lot of green -- which is a delightful surprise!!

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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WaltonInlet wrote:
Where is all this green coming from? Neither parent promises such, but most of my 1706 have a lot of green -- which is a delightful surprise!!


It was a happy surprise. Phal bellina 'Joy' is said to be a progeny from Phal bellina 'Ponkan'. Joseph had progeny of 'Joy' with 'Ponkan' again to get more of that green color to come through.

Phal bellina var coerulea has pale green color around all its segments too. We know F3 of this have produced many nice green color. Original Phal bellina var coerulea (blue) is from Japan. F1 were purchased by Mainshow and Jia-Ho. F2 were made - and that's what I used here. F3 is some of the Phal bellina var coerulea offered by Wilson's Orchids. Tag number is WO-BB.

I supposed if I use one of the WO-BB to pair with Phal bellina 'Joy' - we could get darker green.

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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[/quote] I supposed if I use one of the WO-BB to pair with Phal bellina 'Joy' - we could get darker green.[/quote]

...like maybe this one you have?? :D


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 Post subject: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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Here is a photo shared by Mike Mims this morning

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:39 am 
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peterlin wrote:
Here is a photo shared by Mike Mims this morning
F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina

These have such good texture and really nice lips. I have got to learn how to take photos in the sun without screwing up the color itself. Beautiful, classy and well-balanced flower. :clap: Mike and Peter.

P.S. I got a good chuckle out of the pot being cut to let the spike grow straight out -- I've had to do the same with a couple -- this strain is flowering so young that we are having to cut the pot edges to keep the spikes from crash-landing on the pot edge -- such a nice problem to have!
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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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Updated photo of the "eager beaver" from my plants of Peter's cross of F1706. This is the one that made two spikes on first bloom and tried to branch on the larger of those. I am very interested in Peter's comments about how perhaps using coerulea intensifies color, even in the "tipo" color lines. Unfortunately, the second spike opened a bit scrunched up against the leaf...but maybe that's a nice problem to have. I ain't complaining, that's for sure!
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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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Thank you Walton for sharing. I like the dorsal sepal is flat for the species - and the two petals are horizontal. Lots of potential for being a first bloom. I would keep it to bloom again.

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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peterlin wrote:
Thank you Walton for sharing. I like the dorsal sepal is flat for the species - and the two petals are horizontal. Lots of potential for being a first bloom. I would keep it to bloom again.


Thanks, Peter. I will keep at least three of these, but I have a bit of a concern: as vigorous as these are, I don't know whether to repot them this year while in really quite fresh moss, or wait to see them flower again next year. The problem is that since their roots are so extensive, I am concerned that repotting them next year might be more problematic since the pots will be really packed with roots by then. What do you suggest? Perhaps just moving them up to large 3" clear pots this year, not disturbing the root ball and just wrapping them in fresh New Zealand spaghnum? Wonderful problem to have: bellina so vigorous that you have to wonder whether to repot them while young perhaps the first couple years before they get their own shallow, large baskets and (like Frank grows them), never repot them again.
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 Post subject: Re: Updated photos of F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:08 am 
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These are from Peter's Rock-Star cross.

'#2' is rising in my estimation as it continues to make well-balanced flowers...and keeps pumping out more buds.

Nonetheless, '#3' is still a horse of a grower; the largest I have flowered from the cross (6cm HNS) and darkest.

I just noticed today that probably one of the last to flower of the first bloomers this year is trying really hard to branch from the lower node -- that makes two plants from this outcross with that level of vigor.

Bravo, Peter. :clap: :clap: :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:25 am 
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Thank you Walton

Here are couple photos shared by Mike Mims. Flowers of F1706

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:40 pm 
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Peter -

I keep hinting at this...but so much for that:

Can you remake this original cross, or at least sib it? Any plant from this cross that I have from you...if you want a stem or pollen or whatever, just let me know: it is, after all, YOUR work.

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 Post subject: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:03 am 
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Walton. Thank you. I could also remake this cross, or make a sib cross. I haven't decided but we will see. Generally speaking I like making new hybrid, rather than remaking species.

Mike Mims shared another good flower from this cross. This is his 5th plant to flower. All are good and will grow up to be great. Mike has 5 more plants in spike to bloom.

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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Wow. Great conformation and color. My favorite from the cross so far.

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 Post subject: Re: F1706 Phalaenopsis bellina
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This is a small plant with three leaves. I like the "star-burst" effect of the dark color. Maybe it will "fill-in" with a bit more full shape in future years, like most do.


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